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    Dialectic for High School

    I have a struggling learner. He is in 8th grade this year and is doing ok with lots of modifications in Dialectic (this is his first year in Dialectic). Can I keep him in Dialectic through high school with maybe junior or senior year doing rhetoric? I believe Tapestry is a great program and I think he learns so much from the material. I don't necessarily want him to have an easier program, but I don't want him to drown in rhetoric if it isn't necessary.

    I see from the Credits information on the Loom how to determine high school credits for the classes, but is it ok to do this amount of work at Dialectic level or is high school always Rhetoric? For example, it says to "complete at least 3/4 of the assignments in Literature and Writing." If he does that with the Dialectic level materials, is that high school work?

    Should I indicate Dialectic on the transcript?

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    Tapestry will give you a more formal answer, but I want to say yes and no to your question.

    You need to be very careful not to misrepresent what your son has done to colleges. So if you do decide to go this course I would opt for telling the colleges exactly what materials you used etc. I would also document any learning disabilities in the four years of high school with professionals because most colleges have departments that will work with your son to meet him where he is upon entry to college. I would not use the Dialectic term simply because most college admissions officers will not be familiar with that term.

    What you do not want to do is imply his course load is at the level of a standard high school load with no qualifications. Why? Because if he arrives at college with no qualifiers then the college will deal with him as a student who does not need help who is at the same level as their average or even higher admitted students. This could be a huge disaster.

    I have a high achieving student who does every detail of Tapestry and I did much the same thing, I wrote one page course descriptions of what we studied, how we assessed, what books we used, and in my student and school overview documents I detailed more about both his strengths and pointed to testing. I would think you would do much the same and for much the same reason because our children are not the same as the average student.

    The other thing I did was use strategic quotes from the suppliers of materials I used. This might be helpful using Tapestry's and materials included in your IG. I just put a footnote on any such quotes to indicate where it came from.

    Finally, let me recommend some other possible resources for you. The first are email groups for home school students in high school: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...tions/messages and https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...tions/messages

    Then you might also look at the http://forums.welltrainedmind.com/index.php? They have both a high school forum and a learning challenges forum.

    These sources will help you connect with other moms with students who struggle and find out what they are thinking about high school. I do want to caution you with all these resources. None are explicitly Christian and some may have members who are biased against Christians. Also in the high school oriented boards you are going to find the braggadocios whose children are working with college professors to invent new nanotechnology, while at the same time performing in the new Shakespeare play on Broadway. Don't let these folks depress you, there are struggling moms with struggling students there too, they just aren't so loud. They also tend to be places that are fast moving so you may wish to select a digest version of the email groups or reading strategically on other forums as the volume is high.
    Pat
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    Thank you Pat. I will look into those groups.

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    Jill, in the Yahoo group hs2col, there is a files section. In that are files that include course descriptions. I recommend on the group itself the "Dori" course descriptions. They are detailed and I found them easy to adapt to Tapestry and they gave me a way to indicate what we had done both in terms of content and how we graded.
    Pat
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    Charles H. Spurgeon
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